Comments on: who built the city? http://www.runoverbythetruth.com/2009/04/21/who-built-the-city/ Sun, 09 May 2010 10:13:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: red http://www.runoverbythetruth.com/2009/04/21/who-built-the-city/comment-page-1/#comment-41 red Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:43:38 +0000 http://www.runoverbythetruth.com/?p=316#comment-41 Thanks both of you. I'm going to cop out and leave feudalism vs capitalism for another day... Don't think it's post-industrial just yet though. Those winnings are still going to the very very few. And a part of the structure that provides them with the loot derives straight from transatlantic slavery. Thanks both of you.

I’m going to cop out and leave feudalism vs capitalism for another day… Don’t think it’s post-industrial just yet though. Those winnings are still going to the very very few. And a part of the structure that provides them with the loot derives straight from transatlantic slavery.

]]> By: SwissToni http://www.runoverbythetruth.com/2009/04/21/who-built-the-city/comment-page-1/#comment-39 SwissToni Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:27:55 +0000 http://www.runoverbythetruth.com/?p=316#comment-39 That is indeed a thought-provoking post. As an historian I was interested enough in the "houses what slavery built" in London, but that juxtaposition at the end? Ah. Nicely done. It's good to have you back, Red. And you too Queenie, as you're here. ST That is indeed a thought-provoking post. As an historian I was interested enough in the “houses what slavery built” in London, but that juxtaposition at the end? Ah. Nicely done. It’s good to have you back, Red. And you too Queenie, as you’re here.

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]]> By: Queenie http://www.runoverbythetruth.com/2009/04/21/who-built-the-city/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Queenie Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:19:48 +0000 http://www.runoverbythetruth.com/?p=316#comment-38 It's really chilling when you look at like that. Run over by the truth, to be sure. There's a wider (Marxist? but not solely) view of this that suggests that all countries are built on the explicit or implicit slavery of the lowest classes, whether violently or simply economically coerced. But it's hard to articulate without inadvertently sounding like you're making light of colonial slavery and its repugnant race-centred legacy you mention. I'm going to steer well clear as I feel too clumsy today, but it's a valid big picture claim. The post-industrial winnings did only go to a few, as you say. But was it ever any different pre-industrialisation? I dunno... I can't see much between feudalism and globalisation. The very rich are always getting richer and the very poor are always getting poorer. All that ever seems to change is the size and scope of the people in the middle. Which is a whole other issue, I suppose. Thought provoking post Red. It’s really chilling when you look at like that. Run over by the truth, to be sure.

There’s a wider (Marxist? but not solely) view of this that suggests that all countries are built on the explicit or implicit slavery of the lowest classes, whether violently or simply economically coerced. But it’s hard to articulate without inadvertently sounding like you’re making light of colonial slavery and its repugnant race-centred legacy you mention. I’m going to steer well clear as I feel too clumsy today, but it’s a valid big picture claim.

The post-industrial winnings did only go to a few, as you say. But was it ever any different pre-industrialisation? I dunno… I can’t see much between feudalism and globalisation. The very rich are always getting richer and the very poor are always getting poorer. All that ever seems to change is the size and scope of the people in the middle. Which is a whole other issue, I suppose. Thought provoking post Red.

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